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TechInfoGroup...GoDaddy in disguise?
Late Edit: while I sympathize with everyone's troubles vis a vis GoDaddy, it wasn't my intention to invite a bitch-fest about them. We've all had troubles online. My question, should it be in any way unclear, is in the subject line and the last paragraph.
I have no philosophical trouble with adult pornography - as long as everyone involved is a willing participant then I say, write, photograph, video, and publish to your heart's content. Or any other body part, for that matter. I'll even help...I've got a camera after all :P
I recognize that, as a business owner, some quantity of my customers do and will have a problem with it, and I already know from experience that both of my partners do too. So, when recommending websites and tech providers I have to keep that sort of thing in mind.
Ladies and gentlemen, I offer into evidence exhibit A, GoDaddy.com. On their homepage, they feature pictures of Danica Patrick, among others, and links to videos promising "Too Hot For TV" (they aren't, for the record.) I have also read that if one parks a domain on GoDaddy whose domain name could be a double entendre, the search terms are as likely as not to point to adult websites.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with it in general. While nothing on GoDaddy's website is truly pornographic in the general sense, to the truly conservative it might as well be.
In business that's a problem.
I think Bob Parsons is making a mistake with his cavalier attitude toward the issue: if you read his blog, anyone who complains is dismissed as a prudish minority. What he forgets is that people are more likely to speak in support of something than against it, and those who are against it will simply take their money elsewhere. Like we are.
We're migrating all of our online vendor activity for domains and SSL certs to TechInfoGroup.com. I pointed out, since no one else at the company noticed, that TIG is identical to the GoDaddy of four years ago: the look, feel, terminology, menu structure, product offerings: everything is the same. Support emails for both come from starfieldtech.com. They both have a 480 area code. The voicemail system, with the exception of the company name, is identical, down to, "If you'd prefer to hold without music, press the pound key." In the same voice. Even now with goDaddy's look'n'feel changes, the menu structure and product offerings are identical.
So, while on the phone with TIG cert support yesterday, I asked, "What's the relationship between GoDaddy and TIG?"
There was a long silence. The dude on the phone hmmm'd and welllll'd around for a while working out the answer, and finally offered up, "They use our templates and support system."
Bullshit, I'm thinking, but I can't prove it. Not and get my work done.
I did some research, but don't have time to really delve. I was wonder if anyone reading this knew if there was a relationship between GoDaddy and TechInfoGroup?
I have no philosophical trouble with adult pornography - as long as everyone involved is a willing participant then I say, write, photograph, video, and publish to your heart's content. Or any other body part, for that matter. I'll even help...I've got a camera after all :P
I recognize that, as a business owner, some quantity of my customers do and will have a problem with it, and I already know from experience that both of my partners do too. So, when recommending websites and tech providers I have to keep that sort of thing in mind.
Ladies and gentlemen, I offer into evidence exhibit A, GoDaddy.com. On their homepage, they feature pictures of Danica Patrick, among others, and links to videos promising "Too Hot For TV" (they aren't, for the record.) I have also read that if one parks a domain on GoDaddy whose domain name could be a double entendre, the search terms are as likely as not to point to adult websites.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with it in general. While nothing on GoDaddy's website is truly pornographic in the general sense, to the truly conservative it might as well be.
In business that's a problem.
I think Bob Parsons is making a mistake with his cavalier attitude toward the issue: if you read his blog, anyone who complains is dismissed as a prudish minority. What he forgets is that people are more likely to speak in support of something than against it, and those who are against it will simply take their money elsewhere. Like we are.
We're migrating all of our online vendor activity for domains and SSL certs to TechInfoGroup.com. I pointed out, since no one else at the company noticed, that TIG is identical to the GoDaddy of four years ago: the look, feel, terminology, menu structure, product offerings: everything is the same. Support emails for both come from starfieldtech.com. They both have a 480 area code. The voicemail system, with the exception of the company name, is identical, down to, "If you'd prefer to hold without music, press the pound key." In the same voice. Even now with goDaddy's look'n'feel changes, the menu structure and product offerings are identical.
So, while on the phone with TIG cert support yesterday, I asked, "What's the relationship between GoDaddy and TIG?"
There was a long silence. The dude on the phone hmmm'd and welllll'd around for a while working out the answer, and finally offered up, "They use our templates and support system."
Bullshit, I'm thinking, but I can't prove it. Not and get my work done.
I did some research, but don't have time to really delve. I was wonder if anyone reading this knew if there was a relationship between GoDaddy and TechInfoGroup?
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*shrugs* I don't know enough to have an opinion but I'll pass this along and see what my other web gurus say.
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As Susi noted, I seriously dislike their business practices, having seen first-hand evidence of the 'grab the just-expired domain name of a going entity and either sell it immediately to a porn operator or jack up the price to get a renewal, usually by requiring a multi-year deal.'
People often point to the low registration price and say, "But it doesn't matter since I don't host with them." Yeah, but you often *do* end up 'hosting' with them, in a manner of speaking, as your research has confirmed. If they own the templates and the equipment, they are the ones who control access to your stuff - and I will *not* allow them that privilege, because they are far too fond of abusing it.
Back in the days when registrars were fewer in number, I looked at Internic (the granddaddy of them all) and looked at GoDaddy and (later) Tucows (who was independent at that point in time), and I did not like what I saw. So we ended up with a foreign registrar, Gandi.net, and I used them for several years until we decided to actually start paying for full-blown hosting for brotherwilliam.com (which we run through Netfirms.com). Aside from having to pay a bit extra for currency conversion, we've had no problems whatsoever with either company; their prices are very competitive and they have people that actually answer e-mails promptly, with valid information.
My 2p worth...
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I was not a happy camper on either of these.
brother william
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I used to use gandi.net, until I found out that that they were associated, at least tenuously, with a group of thug hackers from France that also works from eastern Europe & Russia. I moved everything over to harelink.biz, since it is owned & operated by the artist for Kevin & Kell, one of my favorite online comics.
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So maybe GoDaddy's run by bunny rabbits...I hadn't considered that.
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If you dig enough, you'll also note that techinfogroup is registered by DomainsByProxy which is a straw man to keep registration info out of WHOIS records... and also owned by The Go Daddy Group.
I can't find a smoking gun, but given the history of The Go Daddy Group, Bob Parsons (the founder/owner), and Go Daddy in general and how incestuous they are with their infrastructure I think it's more than safe to assume that either...
... techinfogroup is a kinder/gentler/less porny/less hip arm (one of many arms) of Go Daddy
or
... they're a very close partnership including a lot of infrastructure and some weird "appearance of impropriety" trail covering
- Jeho
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